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	<title>Comments on: How I tried (and failed at) legally buying music in Germany</title>
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		<title>By: Moritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 11:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...this is why you all should check out www.jamendo.com
Here you will get more than 9.000 Albums for free and legal download.
Jamendo is the largest music platform worldwide which offers music licensed through Creative Commons. You can download as much as you want and you don&#039;t even need to register.
Ok...you won&#039;t find the new Gnarls Barkley...but there is tons of music which is interesting anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;this is why you all should check out <a href="http://www.jamendo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jamendo.com</a><br />
Here you will get more than 9.000 Albums for free and legal download.<br />
Jamendo is the largest music platform worldwide which offers music licensed through Creative Commons. You can download as much as you want and you don&#8217;t even need to register.<br />
Ok&#8230;you won&#8217;t find the new Gnarls Barkley&#8230;but there is tons of music which is interesting anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: r3lite</title>
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		<dc:creator>r3lite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Na ja... scheint mir alles etwas konstruiert. Die ersten beiden MÃ¶glichkeiten wÃ¤ren zumindest mÃ¶glich und machbar gewesen, wurden aber &quot;abgebrochen&quot; mit jeweils fadenscheinigen ErklÃ¤rungen (sonst hÃ¤tte dieser Artikel ja nicht erscheinen kÃ¶nnen). Damit wir uns nicht falsch verstehen: DRM ist scheisse, aber bei 7digital nicht zu kaufen, weil man da sonst evtl. versehentlich einen Newslette abonniert (man wird nicht gezwungen) ist lÃ¤cherlich. Aber hauptsache, man hat was zu meckern und kann auf die bÃ¶se und unfÃ¤hige Musikindustrie einschlagen, nicht?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Na ja&#8230; scheint mir alles etwas konstruiert. Die ersten beiden MÃ¶glichkeiten wÃ¤ren zumindest mÃ¶glich und machbar gewesen, wurden aber &#8220;abgebrochen&#8221; mit jeweils fadenscheinigen ErklÃ¤rungen (sonst hÃ¤tte dieser Artikel ja nicht erscheinen kÃ¶nnen). Damit wir uns nicht falsch verstehen: DRM ist scheisse, aber bei 7digital nicht zu kaufen, weil man da sonst evtl. versehentlich einen Newslette abonniert (man wird nicht gezwungen) ist lÃ¤cherlich. Aber hauptsache, man hat was zu meckern und kann auf die bÃ¶se und unfÃ¤hige Musikindustrie einschlagen, nicht?</p>
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		<title>By: Mit freier Musik - Roberts Kolumne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mit freier Musik - Roberts Kolumne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wer braucht so etwas? Gesellschaft Zitat des Tages (Lokale) Kultur &#8230; wäre das nicht passiert: How I tried (and failed at) legally buying music in Germany. In diesem Artikel lässt sich der Autor Peter Bihr über die Unmöglichkeit des legalen Erwerbs eines [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a German student currently living in the UK, got a itunes account for their store. Which doesnt work in Germany, because I used a British Visa card. So itunes store doesnt work for me in Germany, very useless. 
Sure there are other alternatives, but why make something legal so complicated? 
The music I listen to is mostly underground metal so also very hard to find in the first place. 
Thank god for rapidshare :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a German student currently living in the UK, got a itunes account for their store. Which doesnt work in Germany, because I used a British Visa card. So itunes store doesnt work for me in Germany, very useless.<br />
Sure there are other alternatives, but why make something legal so complicated?<br />
The music I listen to is mostly underground metal so also very hard to find in the first place.<br />
Thank god for rapidshare :)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Bihr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Bihr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 10:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous No.1: I could just go and get the CD. However, I won&#039;t, for two reasons: 

1.) I move quite frequently, and have lived abroad several times. CDs are the first thing NOT to take along because they are too bulky. So while I enjoy CDs, mostly purely because they are physical objects, I find them highly impractical.

2.) In Germany, format and time shifting - better known as &quot;ripping your CD&quot; - is legally very problematic. If for example there is a copy protection of any sort on a CD, it&#039;s illegal to circumvent this copy protection. And in case you&#039;re wondering: Yes, that&#039;s even if you legally bought the CD and will not share it with anyone. The argument behind this (pretty dumb) law is that even if you pay for the music, you don&#039;t own it, but only purchase the right to use the CD in certain ways which are laid out by the music label. Copying a CD to your iPod is not usually one of these ways. To cut a long story short: Even if you buy a music CD, chances are it&#039;s illegal to put that music on your mp3 player. 

In general, I think it should be the customers&#039; choice in which format they prefer to buy and consume their music. It&#039;s really a matter of service &amp; choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous No.1: I could just go and get the CD. However, I won&#8217;t, for two reasons: </p>
<p>1.) I move quite frequently, and have lived abroad several times. CDs are the first thing NOT to take along because they are too bulky. So while I enjoy CDs, mostly purely because they are physical objects, I find them highly impractical.</p>
<p>2.) In Germany, format and time shifting &#8211; better known as &#8220;ripping your CD&#8221; &#8211; is legally very problematic. If for example there is a copy protection of any sort on a CD, it&#8217;s illegal to circumvent this copy protection. And in case you&#8217;re wondering: Yes, that&#8217;s even if you legally bought the CD and will not share it with anyone. The argument behind this (pretty dumb) law is that even if you pay for the music, you don&#8217;t own it, but only purchase the right to use the CD in certain ways which are laid out by the music label. Copying a CD to your iPod is not usually one of these ways. To cut a long story short: Even if you buy a music CD, chances are it&#8217;s illegal to put that music on your mp3 player. </p>
<p>In general, I think it should be the customers&#8217; choice in which format they prefer to buy and consume their music. It&#8217;s really a matter of service &#038; choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaaah mike... wtf right</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaaah mike&#8230; wtf right</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u could just go get the cd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u could just go get the cd</p>
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		<title>By: MIKE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait, people actually pay for music?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait, people actually pay for music?</p>
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		<title>By: Empirie als Argument &#171; The Infinite Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Empirie als Argument &#171; The Infinite Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] vielleicht lohnt es sich doch einmal ein wenig lÃ¤nger zu zu hÃ¶ren, was die lieben Kunden so zu meckern sagen haben. Bitte: hier. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] vielleicht lohnt es sich doch einmal ein wenig lÃ¤nger zu zu hÃ¶ren, was die lieben Kunden so zu meckern sagen haben. Bitte: hier. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How I tried (and failed at) legally buying digital music &#171; Stefon&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>How I tried (and failed at) legally buying digital music &#171; Stefon&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 14:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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